Comments on: Don’t Look for MS’ “ribbon” in OpenOffice.org http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/ Because the best things in life are free Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:51:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: beojan http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44165 beojan Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:15:25 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44165 They can't actually patent the "ribbon" interface (in the UK, at least), since they made the invention public before getting a patent. They can’t actually patent the “ribbon” interface (in the UK, at least), since they made the invention public before getting a patent.

]]> By: Jim http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44107 Jim Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:09:01 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44107 The ribbon interface is disgusting. It makes me want to puke. The ribbon interface is disgusting. It makes me want to puke.

]]> By: Jason http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44102 Jason Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:46:37 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-44102 To much eye candy for me! I am a Command line guy that feels KIS is the best motto. Give me what I need to get the job done quick and easy and then and get out of my face. Watching things flip around spin to the point of being dizzying and confusing is fine if you are watching The Wall with a hit of acid but this should not be the case when trying to figure out a word possessor. If Open Office things of going this rout I may be forced back to something easy to figure out like LaTeX. To much eye candy for me! I am a Command line guy that feels KIS is the best motto. Give me what I need to get the job done quick and easy and then and get out of my face. Watching things flip around spin to the point of being dizzying and confusing is fine if you are watching The Wall with a hit of acid but this should not be the case when trying to figure out a word possessor. If Open Office things of going this rout I may be forced back to something easy to figure out like LaTeX.

]]> By: thor http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-33738 thor Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:00:16 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-33738 use pie menus! use pie menus!

]]> By: Kizzume http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-30798 Kizzume Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:35:57 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-30798 I think the ribbon was just the start of a major change in GUI's. The iPhone has actually brought into perspective a different way of handling things. As far as the ribbon being so "innovative", I remember ribbon-style interfaces since music trackers were becoming common in '85 or thereabouts. I think interfaces for programs are going to change radically over the next three years. The ribbon is just the beginning. 3d flipping/rotating menu extensions that are part of a ribbon-like system that you can flip through using the middle mouse button and dragging up or down, similar to how the desktops in Beryl flip like a cube but this would be vertically. Dragging and dropping one option onto another option. Possible use of more than one pointing device at a time. Pressure sensitive mouse buttons. There are a lot of things coming. There is enough experience in game interfaces to now know what is more intuitive and what forces people to think very structured and rigid, and fruits of that knowledge is starting to finally make its way into the GUI's of operating systems. I think it's exciting. I think the ribbon was just the start of a major change in GUI’s. The iPhone has actually brought into perspective a different way of handling things. As far as the ribbon being so “innovative”, I remember ribbon-style interfaces since music trackers were becoming common in ‘85 or thereabouts.

I think interfaces for programs are going to change radically over the next three years. The ribbon is just the beginning.

3d flipping/rotating menu extensions that are part of a ribbon-like system that you can flip through using the middle mouse button and dragging up or down, similar to how the desktops in Beryl flip like a cube but this would be vertically. Dragging and dropping one option onto another option. Possible use of more than one pointing device at a time. Pressure sensitive mouse buttons. There are a lot of things coming.

There is enough experience in game interfaces to now know what is more intuitive and what forces people to think very structured and rigid, and fruits of that knowledge is starting to finally make its way into the GUI’s of operating systems. I think it’s exciting.

]]> By: Mike http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-25182 Mike Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:52:19 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-25182 Personally, I hate the Office 2007 Ribbon. If contributing developers of OOo decide to implement their own version of that useless thing, PLEASE don't remove the choice of using real menus and toolbars. Personally, I hate the Office 2007 Ribbon. If contributing developers of OOo decide to implement their own version of that useless thing, PLEASE don’t remove the choice of using real menus and toolbars.

]]> By: I hate noobs! http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16988 I hate noobs! Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:59:40 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16988 "Are you freaking kidding me? The whole “Desktop Linux” uses concepts ripped from other OSes." I don't know what you mean, Linux doesn't even have a standard desktop enviromment, you can use whatever you want, and Linux got a graphical interface before Windows appeared another noob trying to look intelligent Your statement is simply pointless “Are you freaking kidding me? The whole “Desktop Linux” uses concepts ripped from other OSes.”

I don’t know what you mean, Linux doesn’t even have a standard desktop enviromment, you can use whatever you want, and Linux got a graphical interface before Windows appeared

another noob trying to look intelligent

Your statement is simply pointless

]]> By: SF http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16746 SF Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:58:52 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16746 "Some people think it justs bloats the software, and they are probably right, but a normal user is mostly concerned about ease of use in a GUI and how the software looks. If it doesn’t look professional, people aren’t going to think it is professional." I personally use the "Classic Skin" on my XP and have no plans to upgrade to Vista. Eye candy is OK as long as it doesn't make the software look like a circus. MS Office 2003/2007 look = ok. The usual problem with OO apps is that they DO look like a circus on Linux because most Linux distros feature ugly skins. “Some people think it justs bloats the software, and they are probably right, but a normal user is mostly concerned about ease of use in a GUI and how the software looks. If it doesn’t look professional, people aren’t going to think it is professional.”

I personally use the “Classic Skin” on my XP and have no plans to upgrade to Vista.

Eye candy is OK as long as it doesn’t make the software look like a circus. MS Office 2003/2007 look = ok.
The usual problem with OO apps is that they DO look like a circus on Linux because most Linux distros feature ugly skins.

]]> By: SF http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16745 SF Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:53:46 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-16745 " Like any self-respecting open source geek would want anything to do with Microsoft. " Are you freaking kidding me? The whole "Desktop Linux" uses concepts ripped from other OSes. ” Like any self-respecting open source geek would want anything to do with Microsoft. ”

Are you freaking kidding me? The whole “Desktop Linux” uses concepts ripped from other OSes.

]]> By: Dagibit http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-7950 Dagibit Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:28:40 +0000 http://freehogg.wordpress.com/2006/11/26/dont-look-for-ms-ribbon-in-openofficeorg/#comment-7950 I don't think it matters. All OOo needs is a robust themes system (if it doesn't already) and sit back and wait for someone to make their own "ribbon" plugin. No big deal. The only big thing is most noobs who see the ribbon will probably go back to thinking open-source software is inferior. Even though MS office has hardly seen any innovations since its first versions. And ignoring the fact that the ribbon would never have happened if it weren't for innovations from open-source projects and Apple... ...As they go out to upgrade their computers of course. I don’t think it matters. All OOo needs is a robust themes system (if it doesn’t already) and sit back and wait for someone to make their own “ribbon” plugin. No big deal.

The only big thing is most noobs who see the ribbon will probably go back to thinking open-source software is inferior. Even though MS office has hardly seen any innovations since its first versions. And ignoring the fact that the ribbon would never have happened if it weren’t for innovations from open-source projects and Apple…

…As they go out to upgrade their computers of course.

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